anaheim-gazette 1950-08-22

ANAHEIM GAZETTE Published afternoons, Monday through Friday, at 259 East Center, Anaheim, California. Phone Anaheim 2206. Entered as second-class matter at the Anaheim, California, Postoffice on June 5, 1879, under the Act of March 3, 1879. The Gazette is a member of the Associated Press, the National Editorial Association, and California Newspaper Publishers Association. All rights herein are reserved. Subscriptions: 50c per month by carrier or $5 per year by carrier or mail. MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS—The Associated Press is entitled exclusively to the use for republication of all the local news printed in this newspaper as well as all A.P. news dispatches. THEODORE B. KUCHEL Publisher MAX BESLER Assistant Publisher WILLARD GREGORY City and Sports Editor HOWARD HALL News Editor MYLES BRADLEY Picture Editor NEIL STANLEY Advertising Manager RALPH ROULAND Classified Advertising Manager Try to answer these questions . . . Some of the boys sipping the five-cent coffee at Glenn’s new cafe yesterday got to discussing the war news. Things look a little better in Korea, they concluded. One follow, though, had to throw in a tough one for the other boys to chew on. All he wanted to know is: “What’s going to happen after the Allies get the North Koreans on the run? Where are we going? Where will the war end?” Well, try to answer those questions. Go ahead. So, we’ll turn to the words of wisdom put out by the boys in the know to see if there is a clue to what might happen. Many of the top leaders in this country think the U.S. Army should occupy all Korea, if then the U.S. moved back in. If the U.S. whips the North Koreans and drives them north of the 38th Parallel, but itself stops south of it, then the North Koreans once more will be free to re-arm. So long as we kept an army in South Korea, the North Koreans probably would not attempt another attack. But how long would this country be willing to keep an army in South Korea? True, this country could arm the South Koreans and get out. But if war started between north and south again, then all the present shooting and loss of life would be for nothing. On the other hand, if the U.S. — acting for the United Nations — occupied all of Korea it could All he wanted to know is: "What's going to happen after the Allies get the North Koreans on the run? Where are we going? Where will the war end?" Well, try to answer those questions. Go ahead. So, we'll turn to the words of wisdom put out by the boys in the know to see if there is a clue to what might happen. Many of the top leaders in this country think the U.S. Army should occupy all Korea, if the Americans whip the North Koreans in the present fighting. But, so far as can be learned, no decision has been made on this. There's a good reason why the U.S. might not be able to carry out such a decision, if it were made. The reason is Russia. If Russia sees the North Koreans losing, it may send its own troops in to occupy all North Korea down to the 38th Parallel of latitude, which divides north from south. If that happens, we'll have to stop south of the 38th Parallel anyway, whether we like it or not, unless we're ready to go to war with Russia, for crossing the line then would mean that. After World War II Russia took over North Korea down to the 38th Parallel, set up a communist Korean government, armed it, and then got out. We took over Korea south of the line, helped set up the South Korean Republic, left it practically unarmed, and then got out. This left the North Koreans free to attack the south when they were ready. They did. And in South Korea, the North Koreans probably would not attempt another attack. But how long would this country be willing to keep an army in South Korea? True, this country could arm the South Koreans and get out. But if war started between north and south again, then all the present shooting and loss of life would be for nothing. On the other hand, if the U.S.—acting for the United Nations—occupied all of Korea it could disarm the communists, try to stamp them out, and maybe set up a single, non-communist government for all Korea. But— What would Russia do? Sit idly by while the U.S. took over all Korea, which is smack up against the communist territory of China and Russia? Or would it once more move into North Korea, taking it down to the 38th Parallel, as it did before? The Russians could argue: U.S. occupation of Korea would give this country a strong foothold and base in Asia, for use in case of any future war with Russia. The Russians might point out that the U.S. would hardly sit idly by if the Russians tried to occupy Mexico or Canada, which are smack up against the United States. Once the Russians moved into North Korea, they could not be driven out except by force, which would be war. This story raises more questions than it answers. At this moment the answers haven't appeared. IN THE DAYS OF LONG AGO From the Files of the Anaheim Gazette By MRS. HENRY KUCHEL 75 Years Ago The Democratic Gathering—a very large number of citizens actuated by a desire to hear speakers of the reputation of Ganahl and Wiggenston gathered at Enterprise hall last evening. Ben Dryfus presided and the Messrs. Oscar George, J. S. Gardiner, R. W. Scott and E. W. Champlin were elected vice-chairmen. Mr. Niggerton was the first speaker. His speech was an eloquent effort and was received with appreciation by the audience. He devoted the greater part of his remarks to reviewing and criticising the record schoolhouse at that point has been repainted and a windmill erected. School begins next Monday with Miss Thelma Mohr as teacher. Mrs. John Hartung gave a children's party on Friday afternoon in honor of her little niece, Ruth Holmes. The time was spent in playing games. Refreshments were served and the children had a delightful time. B. H. Bancroft was in town one day last week from his home on Orangethorpe avenue. Mr. is a (Ed. Note—While Drew Patterson is on a brief vacation, his crew will be written by members of staff.) WASHINGTON—Though terious subs have been reeled in Panamanian waters since Korean fighting, our vital Pan canal defenses have been gerously neglected. It is no secret in Panama example, that we don't have single fighter plane in the When an unidentified sub ported lurking of the Canal recently, the Navy was without even a scout plan had to appeal to the Air Force help. All the Air Force could into the air was one lone which scouted the water found nothing. Our military bases in Panama are also supposed to be on time alert. Yet, one month ago the Korean invasion, a pr plane drifted in for an emergency landing at Howard Field key base now run by the A The pilot, Enrique Kochman Panama City, tinkered and with the instrument panel, took off again without any so much as noticing him happened on a Sunday, a fine day for surprise attack. Though Kochman reported he had done, another private Lawrence Breeze, pulled virgin the same stunt the following day. He was forced down one ard field, also without attaining any attention. In fact, he spend 15 minutes hunting a to report his trouble. Fortune for Howard Field, these peaceful private planes are enemy bombers. Note—A pentagon spokesman explained that the Panama has had a low priority because the needs have been more elsewhere. The Joint Chief Staff believe the greatest very large number of citizens actuated by a desire to hear speakers of the reputation of Ganahl and Wiggenston gathered at Enterprise hall last evening. Ben Dryfus presided and the Messrs. Oscar George, J. S. Gardiner, R. W. Scott and E. W. Champlin were elected vice-chairmen. Mr. Niggerton was the first speaker. His speech was an eloquent effort and was received with appreciation by the audience. He devoted the greater part of his remarks to reviewing and criticising the record of his opponent, S. O. Houghton. He charged him with supporting the administration in all its schemes to oppress the south, with being an obstacle to the building of the Pacific railroads in this direction. He charged that Mr. Houghton advocated and voted for the bill to increase the tax on distilled liquors from 65 cents to 96 cents per gallon, this striking a direct blow at one of the greatest industries of Southern California. The speaker denied that he was opposed to Tom Scott's road, on the contrary, he was in favor of the competition of the thirty-second parallel road, but had no faith in Scott as a railroad builder. The speaker then pointed out the corruptions of the Republican administration and pointed in glowing language the many blessings which would follow a Democratic victory. He was followed by Frank Ganahl, who spoke with his usual eloquence. The meeting then adjourned. 50 Years Ago J. H. Brumworth with his wife and two children, Ed Kraemer, William Berdrow and William Wagner, boarded Tuesday afternoon's Santa Fe train for a two month's visit with relatives and friends in the east. L. W. Kirby was in town from Peralta yesterday. He reports the Mrs. John Hartung gave a children's party on Friday afternoon in honor of her little niece, Ruth Holmes. The time was spent in playing games. Refreshments were served and the children had a delightful time. B. H. Bancroft was in town one day last week from his home on Orangethorpe avenue. Mr. is a subscriber to rural free delivery in the Fullerton district and pronounces the system a great improvement over getting mail once or twice a week. 25 Years Ago Observing that the directors of the Orange County Fair were worrying themselves gray-headed because of the hundreds of slogans submitted to them in response to their appeal, not one being up to their expectations, George Vadney of the Gazette force took a minute or two off from his regular duties some days ago and evolved the following: "In all the West You'll find the Best At the Orange County Fair." Right the first time! That is the slogan that wins the honors in the Orange County Fair contest. It was written by George E. Vadney, 412 North Claudina street, Anaheim and awarded the prize in competition with a boxful of others. The judges met at the court house yesterday for the sifting process. They were A. L. Oliger, secretary of the Santa Ana Chamber of Commerce; George A. Raymer, secretary of the Fullerton Chamber of Commerce and the Associated Chambers of Commerce of the county, and Thomas B. Talbert, chairman of the county Board of Supervisors. Note—A pentagon spokesman explained that the Panama has had a low priority but the needs have been more elsewhere. The Joint Chief Staff believe the greatest danger in Panama is sabotage; there is a large well-trained ground guarding the Canal. Mean planes and equipment are readily available for Panama as fast as can be spared. No "Super Agency" President Truman does not create a "super agency" minister wartime controls and locations. He made this clear week at a secret meeting government agency chiefs. "I have no intention of imposing an emergency board you," Truman assured FCommunications Chairman W Coy, General Services boss Larson and other top heads. "A super agency, set up the whole show, would demoralize effect and harm than good." Also, it would be a waste time and money, in my opinion, the president added. "I'm loath to each of you to deliver them in your own field. If ever does his part, we'll get along right." Note—The meeting was put a presidential plan to build top advisors call a "war of agency heads, as well as members and the president's staff—all pulling together. No. 1 Authority Secretary of Defense Joey is supposed to be the nation's 1 authority on military prepa- AND THE RAINY SEASON THREATENING MEAGER CINILIAN DEFENSE PLANS AMERICAN CITIES Orange County Ditch the Welfare By GEORGE E. B. Orange County Presidency (First of a series of two) Any father who begins family of children because insurance risk these days life expectancy isn't much about. Not because of the fatherhood. No. It's joker in the welfare or 40, that dangles the pop's skull. A. B. 40 is the new liberalizes public aid to whose fathers are ablwhen you say "liberals" make the prize underof the year. It pays a maximum month for one child, pa second child and $40 additional child in the It allows, in addition month and board, whabout $150, for a houmother is unequal to hold tasks, or can appaIt will make the buments on the television also will pay the instathe new automobile, those very things right Orange county. A family of six chilfore can boast a maid without the payments and the TV set, enjoy o. $475 per month. But there's just one ointment. That's father WASHINGTON—Though my sons have been reported Panamanian waters since the recent fighting, our vital Panama canal defenses have been densely neglected. It is no secret in Panama for example, that we don't have a single fighter plane in the area. Even an unidentified sub was retreated lurking of the Canal Zoneently, the Navy was caught about even a scout plane and not appeal to the Air Force for help. All the Air Force could get to the air was one lone SB-17 which scouted the waters but nothing. Our military bases in Panama are also supposed to be on war-time alert. Yet, one month after the Korean invasion, a private plane drifted in for an emergent landing at Howard Field, a key base now run by the Army. The pilot, Enrique Kochman of Panama City, tinkered around with the instrument panel, then took off again without anyone much as noticing him. This happened on a Sunday, a favorable day for surprise attacks. Though Kochman reported what had done, another private pilot, Lawrence Breece, pulled virtually into same stunt the following Sunday. He was forced down on Howe field, also without attracting attention. In fact, he had to end 15 minutes hunting a sentry report his trouble. Fortunately Howard Field, these were peaceful private planes and not any bombers. Note—a pentagon spokesman claimed that the Panama Canal had a low priority because needs have been more urgent where. The Joint Chiefs of Offensive believe the greatest dangerness. However, his own statements are the best proof that he isn't. Here are some notable examples: Last April, Johnson stated. "We in the Defense Department know—and I say we know—that Russia does not plan to conquer the United States by force or war." He forsaw no danger of war for at least 10 years, Johnson said. On June 29, 1949, the Defense chief predicted: "Within a few short years, we may witness the end of this era of atomic secrecy . . . signaled by the explosion of some other nation's bombs." Russia exploded her first atomic bomb not a few short years but a few short weeks later—in August, 1949. Again, on February 2, 1950, Johnson boasted: "If the Soviet Union starts something at 4 a.m., the fighting power of the United States will be on the job at 5 a.m." Ironically, the Korean invasion began precisely at "four o'clock in the morning, Korean time," as President Truman himself announced to Congress. Even the Korean war didn't seem to sharpen Johnson's military foresight. On June 28, he announced: "It is not contemplated to call the reserve components to active duty in the foreseeable future." Nine days later, President Truman not only called the reserves, but also invoked the draft. Note—In contrast to Johnson's shortsightedness, GOP Congressman Dewey Short of Missouri declared after a tour of the Far East four years ago: "Korea is a danger spot. The minute we move out we know that the Russians will take it all over. They have the same program in Korea as in the rest of the world." Washington Pipeline Pet diversion of the president's is poking fun at the eloquent neckties of his secretary, Matt Connelly ... Contrary to rumors, presidential assistant John R. Steelman and Stu Symington, boss of the National Security Resources mother is unequal to hold tasks, or can appear. It will make the murders of; the television also will pay the bills; the new automobile; those very things right Orange county. A family of six children can boast a maid without the payments and the TV set, enjoy $475 per month. But there's just oneointment. That's father get away with that kid from the public till who man is hanging around got to get rid of him. Once he is out of everything is set. The father clause of A. B. vides that the welfare ment must take over the cash rolling in the after father departs. So there you have them on father's pelt. What intention to shoot the old tracks! He's just a rider. He's worth very little money probably, and never did for his family anywhere much as the welfare service fork over. So where does that place? It puts him strictly on petition with the starry of welfare in Sacramento have their hands in you. It also puts him in jeep. Of course, it isn't exasary to do away with him are an unselfish spoon to share the wealth which can just move out and apartment next door, when him absent, but not to and meets the eligibility of A. B. 40, local officials say. And the $475 per month still leave plenty to pay rent and upkeep, so wouldn't even have during the daytime, neighbors are looking and mother might make each other across the fence. But after darling could slip in the back join the family circle always. A. B. 40, you see, convenient statute. There many like it. If there is taxpayer would soon join bird. As a golden goose be completely cooked. The legislature, in part 40, didn't really intend so jolly, they say. But its provisions open to integration into law by the state board—than whom th same stunt the following Sunday. He was forced down on Howe Field, also without attracting my attention. In fact, he had to end 15 minutes hunting a sentry report his trouble. Fortunately Howard Field, these were peaceful private planes and not army bombers. Note—A pentagon spokesman claimed that the Panama Canal had a low priority because needs have been more urgent elsewhere. The Joint Chiefs of Staff believe the greatest danger Panama is sabotage; therefore, large, well-trained ground force guarding the Canal. Meanwhile, lines and equipment are being used for Panama as fast as they be spared. No "Super Agency" President Truman does not plan create a "super agency" to administer wartime controls and actions. He made this clear last week at a secret meeting with government agency chiefs. I have no intention of superposing an emergency board on my side, the whole show, would have remoralizing effect and do more than good. Also, it would be a waste of time and money, in my opinion," President added. "I'm looking each of you to deliver the goods your own field. If everyone is his part, we'll get along all out." Note—the meeting was part of presidential plan to build what advisors call a "war team" agency heads, as well as cabinet members and the president's own staff—all pulling together. No. 1 Authority Secretary of Defense Johnson supposed to be the nation's No. 1 authority on military prepared- First Negro to Play In Lawn Nationals NEW YORK (P)—Althea Gibson, 22-year-old New York Negro, will become the first member of her race to play in the National Grass Court teams championships. The U.S. Lawn Tennis Association's tournament selection committee listed the Florida A & M sophomore as one of 52 women who will start wrangling for the singles title next Monday at Forest Hills. Negroes have played in National tennis events on clay and hardwood but never on turf. This summer Miss Gibson won the Eastern indoor women's championship and gained the final round of the national indoor. She was beaten by Nancy Chaffee or Ventura, Calif., 6-0, 6-2. Pet diversion of the president's is poking fun at the eloquent neckties of his secretary, Matt Connelly ... Contrary to rumors, presidential assistant John R. Steelman and Stu Symington, boss of the National Security Resources board, are close friends on and off the job ... In the last two months the cost of living has increased more than it did during the last two years of World War II ... The Council of Economic Advisors, charged with keeping the entire U.S. economy on its feet, employs only 36 people and operates on a budget under $300,000 ... The Bureau of Standards' latest automatic computer can make 16,000 additions and 2500 multiplications per second without and error. Flordia growers on the Commission went to New York and made the different agencies competing for their account show what they could do. They picked a new one they thought could do a better job. It was as simple as that. If J. Walter T. and Don don't come through another agency will have the account next year. Now we would be willing to lay a little side bet that not one in a hundred of Mr. Wilcox's Sunkist growers know what agency represents them and probably not one in a thousand know even approximately how much money in total is spent on advertising. We venture the guess right here that the growers are not getting the service that Florida growers will receive this coming year. A further guess: it is not all the fault of the agency. We saw an ad, run in southern California, that was headed: "Only the Exchange can give maximum returns on CITRUS PRODUCTS." If we could only find out who wrote the ad. It sure is a dilly. It urges growers to quick join the Exchange. One of the sub-heads reads like this: "More growers—less investment." Now we could get awful nasty about that one, but, give us a white mark, teacher, we won't do it. We say that as the Exchange has more growers it needs MORE—not less investment in products operation. In relation to number of acres and growers the Exchange is only about 15% built in the concentrate field as against other shippers, it is our belief. We add that "it is our belief" only because of the "hush-hush" imposed behind that iron curtain. We have never seen the "cheaper fruit" contract with Minute Maid here in California. Our informa- tion has come from Florida don't want any cheaper there either. Why do they put Don Francis job? This ad to get more goes on to say that the local facilities are "highly (remember the 6000 frozen concentrate Ejected?) and "are larger and so shame on you in get in where "individual ment is small." The Exchange is also a huge carryover of Florida centrate. But they are ones. Before the next few are over observers in Florida have no axe to grind, then all be sold out. What is Florida doing ready to put up a contrate this year than SELL it. There will be no cheap Florida as far as the concerned. Mutual will send Mr. Wilcox can for those white elephants. W fresh cars shipped east via a red elephant for free. That is the growers sha Orange County Comment— Ditch the Old Man and You'll Hit Welfare: Jackpot: Maid, TV, Car By GEORGE E. HART Orange County Press Bureau (First or a series of two articles) Any father who begets a large family of children becomes a poor insurance risk these days, and his life expectancy isn't much to brag about. Not because of the worries of fatherhood. No. It's that little joker in the welfare code, A. B. 40, that dangles the blade over pop's skull. A. B. 40 is the new law that liberalizes public aid to children whose fathers are absent. And when you say "liberalizes" you make the prize understatement of the year. It pays a maximum of $85 per month for one child, plus $48 for a second child and $18 for each additional child in the family. It allows, in addition, $85 per month and board, which means about $150, for a housekeeper if mother is unequal to her household tasks, or can appear so. It will make the family's payments on the television set and also will pay the installments on the new automobile. It is doing those very things right here in Orange county. A family of six children therefore can boast a maid, and even without the payments on the car and the TV set, enjoy an income o: $475 per month. But there's just one fly in the ciment. That's father. You can't wellness administration back from the state. Was it such a good idea, you muse, to repeal Proposition 23 after all? Under 10.1 the state paid all. Well, 10.1, according to welfare authorities, is chiefly the cause of the boom in welfare costs, and you are the party who pays it, whether to the state or to the county. The only difference is that if the state were handling it, the cost would be very much greater, according to behind-scenes talk. Because the county welfare does not operate in the grand manner. But it's too long a story to tell in one breath. So we'll take a long breath and tell the rest of it tomorrow. Amateur Golf To Slice to 64 MINNEAPOLIS (D) — Several favorites already are sideline and more are expected to follow today as the national amateur golf tournament wheels through the second round, leaving 61 survivors by nightfall. Today's dawn-to-dusk activity is topped by an exceptionally attractive match—Frank Stranahan's Jim McHale. Stranahan, the Toledo weight-lifter who again is trying to grab the elusive national title, after Nurserymen say... by Orange County Nurserymen's Association When planning to use cannas for either background or field settings the color and height should be considered. Most of the species grow five and six feet high. There are a few that do not exceed three feet such as the City of Portland, a ruffled pink variety. The Eureka, which is white, is also a lower grower. Cannas make a fine substitute in the summer for a hedge or a fence. They are used a great deal as linear markings for wide lawn areas. The canna is related to the banana family with its origin in the tropics, where it grows as high as 10 feet. Modern hybridists have evolved colors ranging from ivory through rose and salmon, to crimson and scarlet, with foliage of either green or bronze. The best location for cannas is in the full sun and placed 15-18 inches apart. Spade, the canna bed to a depth of two feet and work in ample humus. Regular feedings of a well balanced commercial plant food and lots of water will give you vigorous plants. Propagation is done by division of roots. They grow rapidly and one year's growth is the center for many new plants. Cannas begin to bloom as soon as they are about a foot high and continue to produce tall flower heads as they grow in height. The period of blooming starts in early summer. It will make the family's payments on the television set and also will pay the installments on the new automobile. It is doing those very things right here in Orange county. A family of six children therefore can boast a maid, and even without the payments on the car and the TV set, enjoy an income of $475 per month. But there's just one fly in the ointment. That's father. You can't get away with that kind of swag from the public till while the old man is hanging around. You've got to get rid of him first. Once he is out of the way, everything is set. The absent father clause of A. B. 40 provides that the welfare department must take over and start the cash rolling in the very day after father departs. So there you have the premium on father's pelt. What a temptation to shoot the old boy in his tracks! He's just a road block. He's worth very little on the hoof, probably, and never did provide for his family anywhere near as much as the welfare state would fork over. So where does that put father? It puts him strictly out of competition with the starry-eyed ladies of welfare in Sacramento, who have their hands in your pocket. It also puts him in jeopardy. Of course, it isn't exactly necessary to do away with him, if you are an unselfish spouse, willing to share the wealth with him. He can just move out and rent the apartment next door, which makes him absent, but not too absent, and meets the eligibility requirements of A. B. 40, local welfare officials say. And the $475 per month would still leave plenty to pay father's rent and upkeep, so that he wouldn't even have to work. During the daytime, while the neighbors are looking, father and mother might make faces at each other across the back fence. But after dark father could slip in the back door and join the family circle, just like always. A. B. 40, you see, is a very convenient statute. There's not many like it. If there were, the taxpayer would soon join the dodo bird. As a golden goose, he would be completely cooked. The legislature, in passing A. B. 40, didn't really intend it to be so jolly, they say. But they left its provisions open to interpretation into law by the state welfare board—than whom there is no MINNEAPOLIS (LP) — Several favorites already are sidelined and more are expected to follow today as the national amateur golf tournament wheels through the second round, leaving 61 survivors by nightfall. Today's dawn-to-dusk activity is topped by an exceptionally attractive match—Frank Stranahan's Jim McHale. Stranahan, the Toledo weigh-litter who again is trying to grab the elusive national title after winning the British amateur has never played the veteran McHale. However, they have exchanged words, and their match borders on a feud. Neither has ever advanced beyond the quarterfinals. Defending champion Charlie Coe of Oklahoma City was one under par for 14 holes in his 5 and 4 victory over Tom Jamison, Jr., of Greensburg, Pa. The world's rarest game bird is the Hawaiian goose or "nene." Changes in land use and extra hunting pressure have reduced their ranks to a pitiful remnant of not over 25 or 30 birds. L.A. TO NEW ORLEANS LOS ANGELES (P)—The Southern Pacific's new Sunset Limited run to New Orleans has been inaugurated. The 15-car streamliner left Sunday night on the malden journey. It will be a regular 42-hour run, Southern Pacific announced. A. B. 40, you see, is a very convenient statute. There's not many like it. If there were, the taxpayer would soon join the dodo bird. As a golden goose, he would be completely cooked. The legislature, in passing A. B. 40, didn't really intend it to be so jolly, they say. But they left its provisions open to interpretation into law by the state welfare board—than whom there is no whomer when it comes to giving away other people's money. So you've been wondering how come that rise of $1,071,000 in the local levy for welfare, now that Orange county has taken tion has come from Florida. They don't want any cheaper fruit down there either. Why do you think they put Don Francisco on the job? This ad to get more growers goes on to say that the Exchange's facilities are "highly developed" (remember the 6000 gallons of frozen concentrate Birdseye rejected?) and "are largely paid for" and so shame on you if you don't get in where "individual investment is small." The Exchange is also claiming a huge carryover of Florida concentrate. But they are the only ones. Before the next few months are over observers in Florida, who have no axe to grind, think it will all be sold out. What is Florida doing now: getting ready to put up more concentrate this year than last—and SELL it. There will be no cheap fruit in Florida as far as the grower is concerned. Mutual will see to that. Mr. Wilcox can forget about those white elephants. With many fresh cars shipped east we include a red elephant for free. That is the growers share.