anaheim-gazette 1936-02-06
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THE GAZETTE
259 EAST CENTER STREET
Is Now In Its 66th Year
OLDEST PAPER IN THE COUNTY
VOL. LXVI
THREE MEMBERS,
TOASTMasters
GAVE PROGRAM
AT ROTARY MEET
Pinev School Quartet Is Special Musical Treat At Luncheon
Continuing its program of inter-club relations, the Rotary Club had as its speakers three members of the Anaheim Toastmaster's club last Monday noon.
James E. Rymer, one of the speakers from the Toastmasters and vice president of the Isnak Walton League, talked on Conservation.
He brought out the necessity for the conservation of soil, wild game and water. He told of the erosion that is taking place, particularly in the Mississippi Valley, and of the huge amount of silt that will, "eventually make the gulf of Mexico another Yellow Sea."
"This is a program upon which I have been declared a little radical, but you must by this time realize that there is great need for it."
NEEDED RAIN ARRIVES OVER LAST WEEKEND
The much needed rain for this section arrived last weekend when 1.21 inches fell during the storm.
While the season's total is still far short of the average, it was necessary to send a spreading crew out to the Santa Aan river to take care of the water.
Figures for the storm in the northern portion of the county were:
Anaheim 1.21
Fullerton 1.56
Yorba Linda 1.60
Placentia 1.60
Buena Park 1.37
La Habra 1.37
Brea 2.36
PRESIDENT BALL AT EIKS THURS.
ATTRACTS LARGE NUMBER DANCERS
Mayor Mann Leads Grand March For Annual Event Here
ANAHEIM GROUP OF RED CROSS TO MEET NEXT TUES.
PICKWICK HOTEL
To Nominate Officers and Explain Program For Year
A nominating committee consisting of Leo J. Friis chairman, M. A. Guer and Charles Griffith, have been appointed to act at the annual meeting of the Anaheim chapter of the American Red Cross Tuesday evening, February 11th. The meeting will be in the form of a 6:30 dinner at the Pickwick cafe, with Stephen Gallagher, chairman of Anaheim chapter presiding.
The program as planned promises to be one of much interest. Aside from the various committee reports Miss Bess Soyer of Orange, who has been blind since infancy, will give an instructive talk and demonstration on the method of writing and reading in Braille. Miss Soyer herself is an instructor and proof reader of the Braille system for
He brought out the necessity for the conservation of soil, wild game and water. He told of the erosion that is taking place, particularly in the Mississippi Valley, and of the huge amount of silt that will, "eventually make the gulf of Mexico another Yellow Sea."
"This is a program upon which I have been declared a little radical, but you must by this time realize that there is a great necessity for conservation. Gradually we are becoming conservation conscious, and we must take heed of our natural resources of soil, water and game."
The second speaker was Wesley Visel of Santa Ana who took as his topic: "Bookworms That Work." He illustrated that the bookworm he had in mind should be allowed to work on human beings. It, he stated, would become a most welcome hobby as well as intensely interesting. He told of his own experiences in gathering books and how he had a very valuable volume in his possession that he little realized would give him a good start in collecting volumes. These, he said, rendered many times their monetary value in amusement and reading.
The first two speakers were then "put on the pan" by a fellow club member, who stated that the Toastmasters Club appointed a critic for every speaker in the club and he would demonstrate the manner in which this was done. The critic at the Rotary club was Robert Rossberg, manager of the local telephone office. He picked the presentation of the speakers to pieces and told wherein they had made errors in delivery and articulation.
The talks were preceded by a number of southern melodies by a colored quartet from the Piney Wood school in Mississippi. These boys came to the meeting at the behest of Rev. Thomas Walker, in whose church the singers appeared last Monday night.
It was reported at the club that Dr. Johnston, who has been confined to his home with flu was on the mend and would soon be able to return to his office.
K. B. Rigby, club president presided at the meeting with Con Jongewaard as program chairman.
PRESIDENT DAILY AT EIKS THURS. ATTRACTS LARGE NUMBER DANCERS
Mayor Mann Leads Grand March For Annual Event Here
The Elks club in Anaheim was the scene of a gay and large crowd last Thursday night when the annual President's Birthday Ball was held. An intermission was called during the radio reception of President Roosevelt's message for the occasion.
A program of entertainment was presented by the Lions club under the direction of Herb Eldred and Roy Mendoza. The grand march was led by Mayor and Mrs. Charles Mann. Music was furnished by Wallie Webb's orchestra.
The ballroom was decorated in the Colonial motif, decorations being in charge of Junior Ebell and 20-30 club members. Seventy per cent of the proceeds will be kept for local work in the prevention and control of infantile paralysis, with 30 per cent sent to national headquarters for research work.
Last Rites For J. M. Moore, Tues.
Funeral services were held Tuesday for John M. Moore, 45, 824 South Los Angeles street, who died at the Sanitarium, Saturday. The services were held from the funeral parlors of McAuley & Suters in Fullerton with Rev. W. C. Harrison officiating. Interment was made in Loma Vista.
The deceased had been a resident of Anaheim but a short time. Surviving him are his widow, Maude M. Moore; two sons, Oakley and Clifford Moore and his mother, Mrs. Mary Moore, who lives in Anaheim. A brother, Sam Moore, lives at Southgate; another brother, L. E. Moore, lives in Texas, and a third brother and two sisters live in West Virginia. They are George Moore, Mrs.
The program as planned promises to be one of much interest. Aside from the various committee reports Miss Bess Soyer of Orange, who has been blind since infancy, will give an instructive talk and demonstration on the method of writing and reading in Braille. Miss Soyer herself is an instructor and proof reader of the Braille system for the Red Cross.
The first aid team of the Edison Company of Fullerton, of which Mr. Otis Cooper is the captain, will give a demonstration. Mr. Harry Edwards of Santa Ana, who is chairman of the first aid stations on the highways, has been asked to explain the important work of that division of the Red Cross.
All organizations have been asked to appoint at least two official representatives to attend the meeting, and an invitation is extended to everyone interested in the movement. Reservations must be made with Miss Grace Bailey, Anaheim chapter secretary, by Monday, February 10th.
Lions Club Hears Television Talk
LeRoy Leishman of Los Angeles, inventor of the telephoto and who is materially aiding in the development of television was the speaker at the Anaheim Lions club last Friday noon.
He demonstrated the use or telephoto machines, showing by illustration that one machine was in Washington, the sender, and the receiver was supposed to be in Anaheim. He sent a picture of President Roosevelt over the wire and the members of the club were able to see how the transmission took place.
The speaker compared the process with that of a phonograph needle traveling over the indentations of a record and reproducing that which originated on a master machine.
Mrs. Walter Ross gave three vocal solos with Miss Betty Fackiner at the piano. It was announced that Charles Walker is ill in Santa Fe hospital, Los Angeles. Chester Ralston, R. H. Richards and Lee Dutton were guests. Dr.
Large Sum To Be Distributed In Bonus Here
Ted Masterson, Anaheim post representative on the County Service officers' staff who was in Anaheim yesterday taking applications for the adjusted compensation certificates for veterans, reports that the sum of $188,606.50 will be distributed in Anaheim and vicinity according to the applications made out here.
"We have taken in about 150 applications so far and predicting on our figures on the average thus far each veteran will receive the average of $823, and on the basis of 400 veterans in this vicinity it is estimated that $188,606.50 will be Anaheim's share of the 'bonus'.
"Another surprising feature is that about ten per cent of the local veterans had their original certificates which means that number have not borrowed on the original sum."
The Legion committee worked Tuesday and Wednesday night on getting the local men lined up and Masterson announces that those who were unable to get to the Legion rooms can go over to Santa Ana and have their applications filled out.
The deceased had been a resident of Anaheim but a short time. Surviving him are his widow, Maude M. Moore; two sons, Oakley and Clifford Moore and his mother, Mrs. Mary Moore, who lives in Anaheim. A brother, Sam Moore, lives at Southgate; another brother, L. E. Moore, lives in Texas, and a third brother and two sisters live in West Virginia. They are George Moore, Mrs. Floyd Mahoney and Mrs. Iona Kerns.
ORANGE COUNTY WEEKLY WATCHTOWER
A Compilation of Observation and Comment by and for the Weekly Newspapers of the County
APPEARING IN THE FOLLOWING:
Huntington Beach News Newport Beach News Garden Grove News
Santa Ana Bulletin Westminster Gazette Coastline Dispatch
South Coast News Buena Park News Yorba Linda Star
Placentia Courler Anahelm Gazette Seal Beach News
La Habra Star Tuatin News Brea Progress
APPOINTEES HOLD UNTIL 1939
Persons appointed by the board of supervisors to fill elective offices in the county in which vacancies occur will not come up for reelection this year, although the idea that they will has had some circulation. They will serve until the end of the regular term in 1938.
An unprecedented situation occurs in Orange county this year in that three major county offices have had vacancies filled by such appointment. The resignation of S. B. Kaufman as district attorney was followed by the death of E. B. Trago, county treasurer. Wm. Menton was given the attorneyship and Terry Stephenson became treasurer. Now comes the vacancy in the recorder's office,
which in turn is the result of an unprecedented situation. For the first time in the county's history an official was thrown out of office by legal action.
According to law, a vacancy on the superior court bench or on the board of supervisors itself can be filled by appointment only until the next general election. But in the case of any other elective county office the board can make the appointment either until the next general election, one of which comes every two years, or for the remainder of the unexpired term. In the three cases at hand the appointments were made for the rest of the term, which means that each will serve three years, more or less.
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ANAHEIM GAZETTE
ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1936
EIM GROUP TO CROSS TO NEXT TUES. CHICK HOTEL
state Officers and main Program For Year
nating committee of Leo J. Friis M. A. Guer and Riffith, have been ap-act at the annual of the Anaheim the American Red day evening, FebThe meeting will form of a 6:30 din-Pickwick cafe, with allagher, chairman in chapter presidgram as planned be one of much inside from the various reports Miss Bess range, who has been infancy, will give an talk and demonstramethod of writing and Braille. Miss Soyer instructor and proof of Braille system for
New Registration NOT Needed Friday
You do not need to re-register to vote NO on the re-call election tomorrow (Friday, February 7). During the past few days the Gazette has been asked many times whether a person had to have a new registration to vote Friday. We have checked up and found that NO RE-REGISTRATION IS NECESSARY.
The important thing to do tomorrow is to get out to the polls and cast your ballot.
Anyone wishing transportation to the polls will please feel free to call Anaheim 2414 and transportation will be provided. It is VERY IMPORTANT that a large vote is gotten out. This will help insure that right and justice will prevail in this election.
BE SURE TO VOTE—FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 7.
BOY SCOUT COURT OF HOROR HELD MONDAY
The members of Troop 72 were
WORST ACCIDENT IN YEARS TA LIVES OF TWO CHILDREN, SERIOUS INJURIES 3 HERE SATURDAY
Head-on Collision at Palm and Sycamore during Rain Demolishes Cars; Jimmy Heffron Putting Up Phee Fight For Life; Two Others Suffer Broken Bones.
For the past five days the many friends of Jimmy have been daily callers at the Sanitarium here to as to the progress being made by him in his battle since the wreck last Saturday night which took the two children, David Schmitt, 9, and Milton Schmitt, put their father Elmer Schmitt, 824 North Janss st the hospital seriously wounded along with Alexander driver of the car in which Heffron was injured.
Heffron and Forbes were re-turning from the races at Santa Anita and travelling north on Palm, when according to the report coming to the Gazette, Forbes turned out to pass a vehicle in front of him while the Schmitt car containing Schmitt and his two sons coming the other direction loomed up in front of him.
The crash that followed, without it, is said, anyone outside the victims, witnessing the event, David Schmitt the oldest boy was immediately killed and Milton, the younger so badly injured about the head that he died later in the hospital.
It was believed that there was little chance for Jimmie Heffron
Funeral Service For Crash Victims Friday
Funeral services will tomorrow (Friday) after 2 o'clock for the two boy ton and David Schmitt were killed in the auto accident here Saturday n
The services will be from the funeral park Backs, Terry and Ca with Rev. Dean of Ont
BOY SCOUT COURT OF HOROR HELD MONDAY
The members of Troop 72 were the guests of the American Legion post, sponsors of the troop, at the meeting held last Monday night at which time a court of honor was held.
A large number of members of the post, in addition to the members of the Auxiliary were present at the court.
Kenneth Peck made the awards of tenderfoot badges to Donald Dutzi; second class Scout to Robert Dodge, Bud Cram and Eric Baxter; first class Scout to Karl Heil, and merit badges to Karl Heil, Harley Hoskins, who received ten awards, and Austin Griffith.
Past Commander William P. Webb Jr., addressed the Scouts on the value of their organization, and Commander Earl Fulfer spoke of the record of Scoutmaster Clinton Hill, a member of the troop for ten years, and Cubmaster Bob Wallin, a member for seven years.
GROUP IN MEET TO SELECT NAME FOR NEW PARK
The joint committee of the Chamber of Commerce and the City Council met last Tuesday night at which time they waded through the long list, some 400, of names for the new recreation center for Anaheim.
Those on the committee from the Chamber of Commerce were: Carroll Cone, Judge Frank Tausch, K. B. Rigby and George Reid, while the six council members and Rudy Boysen, park superintendent, and "Hap" Hapgood City Engineer, comprised the balance of the judges.
Five names survived the elimination containing Schmitt and his two sons coming in front of him.
The crash that followed, without it is said, anyone outside the victims, witnessing the event, David Schmitt the oldest boy was immediately killed and Milton, the younger so badly injured about the head that he died later in the hospital.
It was believed that there was little chance for Jimmie Heffron and a specialist was called in late Saturday night. It was found he was suffering with a frontal fracture of the skull along with a fracture also at the base of the skull, his front teeth knocked out and nose badly broken and one leg badly fractured. As near as can be found out Jimmie was thrown into the wind shield with terrific force. He was conscious until Monday morning when he lost consciousness for a while, but according to reports from the hospital this morning he has been making a wonderful fight and this morning (Thursday) was reported by the hospital as showing phenomenal improvement with an excellent chance of pulling through.
Forbes has been placed under arrest in the hospital on a charge of murder and is being guarded by the district attorney's office. He is in critical condition, however, and cannot be moved.
Jimmie Signs Bonus Application
Ted Masterson of the Anaheim American Legion post who is working with the county service officer went to the hospital Tuesday afternoon, and while the doctors will not permit visitors, he was able to get in with Jimmie and filled out his application and got Jimmie's signature to the document.
Last Rites Held L. C. Vandenburg
Funeral services for L. C. Vandenburg, a resident of Anaheim and Fullerton for the past 41 years, was held Wednesday afternoon at 2 o'clock with the Gillogly Mortuary of Orange. The services were held from the Fullerton Methodist Church with Interment.
Victims Friday
Funeral services will tomorrow (Friday) after 2 o'clock for the two boys and David Schmitt were killed in the auto accident here Saturday night.
The services will be from the funeral parish Backs, Terry and Care with Rev. Dean of Onto charge.
CO. SUPERVISION FAIL APPOINT RECORDER
Much interest has developed the appointment of a co-corder to succeed Miss Whitney, whose resignation accepted at the board meeting Tuesday.
A large list of applications appeared for the considerate supervisors, many of are women. A large delegation women from various women organizations appeared before board and asked that a woman appointed to succeed Miss Whitney.
Among the applicants position from Anaheim are Sidebottom and Floyd Meadows in mens side while any women applicants are Mrs. D. Schrank and Mrs. H Nelson. All told there are men and eight women applicants.
It is generally believed supervisors will await that of Supervisor Jerome Wentz present in Sacramento attending but who will not time for the meeting next March 1.
Cypress Man Hidden In Auto Collision
John Chesser, 68, was when his pickup truck with a car driven by
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Last Rites Held
L. C. Vandenburg
Funeral services for L. C. Vandenburg, a resident of Anaheim and Fullerton for the past 41 years, was held Wednesday afternoon at 2 o'clock with the Gillogly Mortuary of Orange. The services were held from the Fullerton Methodist Church with interment in Loma Vista cemetery.
Mr. Vanderburg was well known throughout the district as a rancher and property-holder. He had been sick about a week before his death. Survivors include his widow, Jennie, three children, Mrs. Velma Ozias of Fullerton, Clarence Vanderburg of Fullerton, and Elton Vanderburg of Monmouth, Ore.; a brother, George Redondo, and twelve grandchildren.
Schumann-Heink
Will Attend Dance
The Disabled Vets ball to be held at the Valencia ballroom on February 20, will have as its special guest Madame Ernestine Schumann Heink, it was announced this week.
The affair is the Eighth Annual Ball of the Jack Fisher Post D. A. V.
Townsend Club No.
1 to Hear Riley
Harry D. Riley will be the speaker at the meeting of Anaheim Townsend Club 1 at its regular meeting next Tuesday night.
The meeting is called for 7:30 o'clock and will be held in the Townsend clubrooms at 210 South Clementine.
Miss Whitney's resignation lowed the findings of the trial and will become effective March 1.
Cypress Man Hire
In Auto Collec
John Chesser, 68, was when his pickup truck with a car driven by Young, route 4, Box 328, Witnesses states that was thrown from his trunk street and he was rushed sanitation for treatment and bruises. The accident red at the intersection of and Moody Road, last evening about five o'clock.
ILL AT HOME
Leonard Dargatz, head at the Alpha Beta store, B Center is confined to his illness.
BE SURE TO VOTE
The much talked of at which time the off-township will again township.
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Judge Charles Kuelen years and has no jury on the manner office.
Do not be misled face of existing laws
Check up on who is
Then go to polls Charles Kuchel and be office-seekers that used for the purpose
IN YEARS TAKES DREN, SERIOUSLY SATURDAY EVE.
Weamore during Rain Storm Iron Putting Up Phenominal Suffer Broken Bones.
By friends of Jimmy Heffron Sanitarium here to inquire by him in his battle for life which took the lives of and Milton Schmitt, 7, and 824 North Janss street, in song with Alexander Forbes, he was injured.
Funeral Service or Crash Victims Friday
Funeral services will be held tomorrow (Friday) afternoon at o'clock for the two boys, Milton and David Schmitt who were killed in the automobile accident here Saturday night. The services will be held from the funeral parlors ofacks, Terry and Campbell with Rev. Dean of Ontario in
Asks Question; Finds Out He's Wanted
Robert V. Balch, 19, who stated he was a civil engineer had occasion to go to the Anaheim police department last Thursday to seek some information.
He was quite surprised when the information given him included the fact that he was among those listed at the local station as "wanted."
He was taken to the county jail by deputies from the sheriff's office where he was booked on a burglary charge at the request of Constable George Hrull of Lindsey.
"All I know is, I was living with some folks up there," he said. "They went on a trip east and while they were gone, the place was burglarized.
20-30 CLUB HERE TO PLAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN, CURB TRAFFIC CRASHES
MR. GAUER TALKS TO LEGION POST AT MEETING LAST MONDAY EVENING
Educator Tells of Events Surrounding Writing of U.S. Constitution
Mel Gauer, city superintendent of schools addressed the local post of the American Legion at its regular meeting last Monday night, using as his topic "Our Constitution."
He stated that his talk was not made up of partisanship and used as the theme of his talk letters that were written by George Washington at the time when the country, then in the throes of organization, planned the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.
Stressing the point that the founders of this country were ever mindful of posterity in their deliberations he said, "These men were farseeing; even more so than we of today. They planned for posterity; they gave us the greatest document ever written in this or any other country that enables us to live in the greatest country."
Funeral services will be held tomorrow (Friday) afternoon at no clock for the two boys, Milton and David Schmitt who were killed in the automobile accident here Saturday night.
The services will be held from the funeral parlors ofacks, Terry and Campbell with Rev. Dean of Ontario in large.
10. SUPERVISORS FAIL APPOINT RECORDER
Much interest has developed in the appointment of a county reorder to succeed Miss Justine Whitney, whose resignation was accepted at the board meeting last Tuesday.
A large list of applicants has appeared for the consideration of supervisors, many of whom are women. A large delegation of women from various women's organizations appeared before the board and asked that a woman be pointed to succeed Miss Whitney.
Among the applicants for the position from Anaheim are J. Fred debottom and Floyd McCracken the men's side while among the women applicants are Mrs. Elsie Schrank and Mrs. Helen G.elson. All told there are five men and eight women among the applicants.
It is generally believed that the supervisors will await the return Supervisor Jerome who is at resent in Sacramento attending a meeting but who will return in time for the meeting next week. Miss Whitney's resignation followed the findings of the court and will become effective on March 1.
Cypress Man Hurt In Auto Collision
John Chesser, 68, was injured when his pickup truck collided with a car driven by Loraine while they were gone, the place was burglarized.
20-30 CLUB HERE TO PLAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN, CURB TRAFFIC CRASHES
Club Members Believe Program of Safety Should Be Instituted
The 20-30 Club of Anaheim met in the Marigold last Monday night at which time much discussion was held relative to the formation of a safety campaign committee which would formulate a program for the club along the lines of a Safe Driving Campaign.
There have been so many accidents recently that such a program is essential to the safety of not only pedestrians but automobile drivers as well. A committee is arranging the details of the program.
The box lunch and dance to be held on February 17 was reported and plans tentatively made for the event. It is planned to hold the event in the K. P. Hall and is for members and their guests only.
Lt. Col. Fred W. Smith was the speaker of the evening and used as his topic, "How I Became a Soldier," which was the topic assigned by the members of the club.
The meeting was conducted by Dr. Wm. Stehly, president of the club and the program chairman for the evening was Lawreene Poirier of the Alpha Beta Stores.
Anaheim Florist Talks on Flowers
Gordon Handfield was one of the speakers on the program last Thursday at the home of Mrs. W. J. Travers on Raymand Avenue when the Garden Section of the Placentia Round Table met.
Gordon told of ways to overcome the difficulties in flower growing.
Stressing the point that the founders of this country were ever mindful of posterity in their deliberations he said, "These men were farseeing; even more so than we of today. They planned for posterity; they gave us the greatest document ever written in this or any other country that enables us to live in the greatest country on the face of the earth today.
"We hear much of the teachers that are red, but I don't know who would teach Americanism if the public schools did not."
He told of the self-governing bodies in the grammar schools and stated that the examination on constitutional government that is required when a pupil graduates would be even tough for the adults.
"What we need is more practice of principles and less pledging to do the things we do not think of practicing. Less loose thinking and more practice."
The speaker then presented the local post with a citation from the National Educational Society, for the work of the local post during the recent educational week.
Rev. M. C. Schollenberger attended as a guest and extended an extended invitation to the post to hold its Armistice Sunday services in his church this year. He also announced that his sermon on February 16 would be based on National defense and invited as many of the legion men to attend as could.
Routine matter occupied the balance of the meeting during which plans were made for handling applications for the veterans for the bonus. It was arranged that post members would take care of applicants in the hall on Tuesday and Wednesday night.
Leo Friis Chosen Head 75th Dist. Assembly
At a meeting of the Republican Assembly which was held at the Elks Temple last Wednesday night, Leo Friis was chosen to fill the office of vice-president of the
Cypress Man Hurt In Auto Collision
John Chesser, 68, was injured when his pickup truck collided with a car driven by Loraine Young, route 4, Box 328, Anaheim. Witnesses states that Chesser was thrown from his truck to the street and he was rushed to a matarium for treatment of cuts and bruises. The accident occurred at the intersection of Lincoln and Moody Road, last Thursday evening about five o'clock.
ILL AT HOME
Leonard Dargatz, head butcher in the Alpha Beta store, Emily and center is confined to his home by illness.
BE SURE TO VOTE FRIDAY
The much talked of recall election is being held tomorrow at which time the office of justice of the peace of Anaheim Township will again be brought before the people of the township.
Be sure to vote BUT ...
Also be sure that you know what you are voting on.
Judge Charles Kuchel has held the office for the past eleven years and has received the commendation of the grand jury on the manner and method in which he has kept his office.
Do not be misled by pre-election promises which in the face of existing laws cannot be kept.
Check up on who is behind the recall and find out why.
Then go to polls and VOTE NO opposite the name of Charles Kuchel and aid in indicating to disgruntled would-be office-seekers that the taxpayers' money is NOT to be used for the purpose of "getting even."