anaheim-gazette 1926-12-02
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GROWTH OF ANAHEIM
Total for 1910 was..... 2,268
Total for 1920 was..... 5,525
Today estimated at.....12,000
VOLUME LVII
PEOPLE INDIFFERENCE
COUNCIL LETS CONTRACT FOR EXTENSIVE STREET PAVING JOB
Steele Finley of Santa Ana, Lowest Bidder, Awarded Work at 14c Per Square Foot; $8000 Below City’s Estimate
FIRST unit in the city council's program for extensive street improvement was gotten under way Friday night, when bids were opened for the paving of North and South Olive street, North Clementine from Sycamore to North street, West Sycamore and West Cypress streets from Lemon to Palm. Three bids were submitted by three firms, the L. A. Paving Company and the Griffith Company, both of Los Angeles, and Steele Finley of Santa Ana. The L. A. Paving Company (E. R. Werdin's company) and the Griffith Company have both secured paving jobs here in the past, and have built nearly all the paved streets in the city, but they were under-bid on this job by the Santa Ana firm.
Recent Forest Fires
Came Near Home
Approach to Within 20 Feet of Judge Pleasants' Residence
Recent Forest Fires Came Near Home
Approach to Within 20 Feet of Judge Pleasants' Residence
Judge J. E. Pleasants was in town yesterday and met with a hearty welcome on the part of his many friends. The judge is making his customary tour of the apiaries of the county, and made a brief stay on his way back to his home in Santa Ana canyon. This is his twenty-fourth year as bee inspector, and he is the oldest man doing this very necessary work in Southern California. He states that the recent disastrous forest fires in the canyon came within 20 feet of his residence. He and his wife were prepared to move out, and had several trucks ready to convey his furniture and clothing to a place of safety. A north wind was blowing, which made fire fighting difficult. A large number of men were present, and the flames were prevented from reaching the home, although the judge thought at one time his residence was doomed. The fires burned several days, and were the most disastrous ever experienced in the history of the county. Much bee feed was destroyed, and many colonies of bees were consumed, although the judge was fortunate enough to escape any losses. It was the closest call he had ever had since living in the canyon.
Judge Pleasants first saw Orange county in 1859, and is the oldest settler on the rolls of the historical society. He brought the original vine cuttings from the Wolfskill ranch at San Gabriel to Anaheim in that year, and the first vineyards date from that period. He was personally acquainted with all the old Pioneers, whom he holds in fond remembrance. He was a welcome guest at their homes, as he has been a welcome guest in this city in all these intervening years. Anaheim was at first a city of tents and was known as El Campo de los Alemanos, or the camp of the Germans. Frame and adobe residences were erected the following year.
He recalls the flood of 1862, when water stood four and five feet deep for days, from the foothills to the ocean. He was living then in the Santiago canyon, where he was employed by Mr. Wolfskill on his stock ranch. Wolfskill later sold the ranch to James Irvine of the San Joaquin.
For many years he was judge and starter of horses at the Santa Ana racetrack. He saw Silkwood pace a mile in 2:07¼, which was the fastest time ever made west of the Rocky mountains. Silkwood had no difficulty in negotiating the half mile post in a minute flat, but was slower coming home. The judge recalls all of the
ENDORSES
In response to Orange County Louis C. Luhr's following reasons for the harbor bond price being dated November to Harry Welch, he says:
"Your letter of N with the interesting answers and answers answer. I will say endorse the proposed improvement of the entrance for three."
1. In the interim present deadly pernance, as proven in the past, is in with humane feel more probable or these tragedies are the future, unless harbor is made safe.
Mr. Jerome, states that the average for the proposed per $100 of assays cost therefore on value of which is than one dime a would be worth the reputation get rid of not trap, to say nothing menace itself.
2. I favor because of the souls standpoint.
My position in this is: I am oppose public bond indebted nipal, county or where it can be cle either vitally important or good business recall, Mr. Welch, election I opposed improvement of ir on these grounds.
Now I assume age we all agree tising pays. It is question where an county secure su permanent advertising cost as it would beautiful harbor.
It will be the
Anaheim Student Gets Scholarship
Earl Jabs Most Valuable Man on California Team
The Jerry Muma scholarship, of $250 in cash, awarded each year to the football player on the University of California team judged to be the most valuable to the squad, the money to be used toward paying scholastic expenses, has been awarded this year to Earl Jabs.
Dispatches from the state university told of the action of the university regents a few hours before the annual University of California-Leland Stanford gridiron clash, in awarding the honor. Jerry Muma was an old-time football hero of the university.
The game marked the retirement of Jabs from the Bear team, as this is his senior year. He will graduate in June from the commerce course.
Two years ago, as a member of Andy Smith's team, Jabs carried the ball down the field single-handed to score a touchdown and defeat the University of Washington team. He won undying fame on the Berkeley campus for that feat.
Jabs always has had a high scholastic standing while a student in the state university, friends of the scholarship winner said.
Queen Marie says she wants to see real Americans free of formality, and we suggest that she attend a football game in which there are a lot of hot arguments over the referee's decision.
Lt. Quarton and Wife To Visit Friends Here
Lieut. Dale Quarton, now stationed at the Brooklyn naval base, and Mrs. Quarton will arrive in Anaheim some time next week, and will spend three weeks visiting relatives and friends here. Lieutenant Quarton has been transferred from Brooklyn to the navy yard at Bremerton, Wash., and he and his wife will leave Brooklyn on December 4. He will be stationed at Bremerton four years.
Quarton entered the naval academy at Annapolis nine years ago, and graduated with high honors. His last visit to his old home was three years ago.
Water stood four and five feet deep for days, from the foothills to the ocean. He was living then in the Santiago canyon, where he was employed by Mr. Wolfskill on his stock ranch. Wolfskill laetr sold the ranch to James Irvine of the San Joaquin.
For many years he was judge and starter of horses at the Santa Ana racetrack. He saw Silkwood pace a mile in 2:07¼, which was the fastest time ever made west of the Rocky mountains. Silkwood had no difficulty in negotiating the half mile post in a minute flat, but was slower coming home. The judge recalls all of the races at the track in those palmy days, and is able to recount incidents of many of them. Silkwood was, in his day, one of the greatest horses in the country. He was later taken to Kansas, where he died, a number of years ago. Judge Pleasants is 87 years of age, and has live din this county 67 years. For many years Anaheim was his post-office and trading center. He was frequently in town, and in the early days was a familiar figure on the local thoroughfares. He is hale and hearty, and probably recalls more incidents in the history of the county than any man now living. It is always a pleasure to meet this grand old gentleman.
He declares that at the present moment the weather resembles more an old-time rainy season than at any time for a number of years past. Good rains have already come, and weather conditions are such as to lead him to believe abundant rains will follow.
My idea is simply realize the exceeding of water conservancy water levels leave question. On the people living at New coast of Orange concerned over theirs are about an water supply.
Now, past born that over 25 per cent against all bonds, I am inclined to tunate that they of the votes cast bonds, it becomes we co-operate in feel sure are for the entire county, water bonds are d may as well be fra
NAHEIM-GAZETTE
Anaheim, California, Thursday, December 2, 1926
DFFERENT TO RIVER COMMITTEE
Law Forbids
Cutting Down
Xmas Trees
IT WAS not very long ago that those desiring a Christmas tree would pick up an axe, walk or drive two or three miles to a grove of evergreens, which were numerous then, pick out the tree wanted, cut it and take it home.
But nowadays—"try and do it."
Even if a Christmas tree hunter is willing to walk 20 miles, he is not allowed to cut a tree, according to Forest Ranger Burt Stephenson.
This is because persons have cut down Christmas trees annually until now there are very few left in the mountains, Stephenson said.
"Forest service officials can see no good reason for a person's chopping the trees in these mountains, especially when it is so easy to order a tree at one's grocer and have it delivered to the door," he said.
And surely there will be plenty to go around this year, if one judges from the thousands of trees that have been ordered by merchants.
The trees, which were ordered more than a year ago, will begin to arrive.
SUBSCRIPTIONS SLOW FOR RIVER PROTECTION
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMMITTEE GETS LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT
Efforts to Safeguard City and Surrounding Country Apparently Not Appreciated; Indications Are That Coming Winter Will Be Wet, and a Break in Protection Work Dangerous; $3000 Will Repair the Gap
IN THE event of high waters this winter, the Santa Ana river in this section of Orange
Court Battle Indicated on Water Permit
GASTON BASTANCHURY is prepared to go to court to contest the right of Fullerton to withhold from him permission to lay a pipe line with which to convey water for the irrigation of the property he has under long lease on the slopes to the eastward of Hillcrest reservoir.
He has by no means abandoned his project for the development of these lands because the city council has turned down his application for a franchise, he made clear today.
The city board of trustees at a special meeting last week declined to grant a franchise for a pipe line along Cypress avenue.
Bastanchury stated that he is ready to spend between $3,000,000 and $4,000,000 in the development of lands he has under lease from the Union and Associated oil companies.
Incidentally, he disclosed that the corporations are partners with him in his development projects, which will cover a matte rof around 4000 acres, a much greater area than that of the Bastanchury ranch itself.
ENDORSES THE BONDS
In response to a letter from the Orange County Harbor Association, Louis C. Luhr of Santa Ana gives the following reasons why he is supporting the harbor bond proposition. His letter is dated November 27, and is addressed to Harry Welch, secretary of the association. He says:
"Your letter of November 22, together with the interesting circular of 'Questions and Answers' is before me. In answer, I will say that I favor and endorse the proposed bond issue for the improvement of the Newport harbor entrance for three specific reasons:
1. In the interest of safety. The deadly peril lurking at the entrance, as proven by repeated tragedies in the past, is intolerable to anyone with humane feelings. Nothing seems more probable or certain than that these tragedies are bound to occur in the future, unless the entrance to the harbor is made safe.
Mr. Jerome, our county auditor, states that the average annual tax rate for the proposed bonds will be .0315 per $100 of assessed valuation. The cost thereof on property, the actual value of which is $1000, would be less than one dime a year. I feel that it would be worth the dime, for the sake of the reputation of Orange county to get rid of the notoriety of that death trap, to say nothing of removing the menace itself.
2. I favor the proposed bond issue because of the soundness from a business standpoint.
My position in reference to bonds is this: I am opposed to increasing the public bonded indebtedness whether municipal, county or state, except in cases where it can be clearly shown that it is either vitally important and necessary or good business to do so. You will recall, Mr. Welch, that in the previous election I opposed the bonds for the improvement of interior of the harbor on these grounds.
Now I assume that in this day and age we all agree that judicious advertising pays. It is therefore a pertinent question where and how could Orange county secure such a valuable and permanent advertising asset at so little cost as it would have in a safe and beautiful harbor.
It will be the only real recreational committee gets little encouragement.
Efforts to Safeguard City and Surrounding Country Apparently Not Appreciated; Indications Are That Coming Winter Will Be Wet, and a Break in Protection Work Dangerous; $3000 Will Repair the Gap
IN THE event of high waters this winter, the Santa Ana river in this section of Orange county is in a dangerous condition, but the people menaced by it appear to be indifferent. Several months ago a fire destroyed 300 feet of the protection work just above the North street bend. The Chamber of Commerce river committee has been endeavoring to raise a fund of three or four thousand dollars to repair the damage and insure a measure of protection to Anaheim and the rich territory adjacent, but the committee has met with discouragement, and the sum subscribed is far below the amount needed. The majority of men are different to danger until confronted with it, face to face, then it is too late to take precautions.
All indications are that this is going to be a wet season. We have had three years of drought and, according to the official weather chart, three dry years are always followed by three or four years of excessive rain. In the winter of 1884-85 the three preceding dry years were followed by the wettest season recorded since 1862, the precipitation in Anaheim being 37 inches. While nobody anticipates such an unusual precipitation, yet it is almost certain that we will have a normal rainfall of 14 inches. That means that the channel of the Santa Ana river will be filled to the brim, and that the heavy weight of water will break through the weakened embankment and infundate the country below.
Some years ago, a party of engineers employed by the counties of Orange, San Bernardino and Riverside, made a survey of the river from its source to the mouth. These men reported that the most dangerous spot in the entire embankment was at the North street, bend, in Anahelm. This point is at the foot of the sandwash, and everybody knows that the sandwash was the ancient bed of the river. It will break through again, unless the people awake to the fact that precaution must be taken to confine it to its present channel.
H. Clay Kellogg, the greatest authority on the river county ever produced, has stated that the Santa Ana river has changed its course 13 times, and it is likely to do it again at any time, because the channel has been gradually filling up with silt brought down from the mountains, until the bed of the river is much higher than the adjacent country. It is many feet higher than the intersection of Center and Los Angeles streets. Should it break through, a flood of uncontrolled water will inundate this section. It will be too late then to subscribe to a
Orange County Fruit Popular in the North
One of Best Commodities on Market, Says Dale King
California oranges have proved one of the best commodities on the American and Canadian markets this year, Dale King, manager of the Northern Orange County Citrus Exchange, who has just returned from an extensive tour of the whole country, said he heard this on every hand during his travels.
"It was most gratifying to receive such compliments to our industry and to our organization methods," King said. "They showed a warm appreciation of our marketing and distributing systems."
California oranges were one of the few commodities on which money has been made this year. There was a maximum crop and the fruit commanded fair prices, which is more than can be said for many other kinds of product. This condition did not apply, unfortunately, to lemons because of the weather in the east, which was not nearly as hot as usual this summer.
"I found that brands of oranges handled through the northern Orange county exchange had a high standard in all markets."
King commented on the fact that there is a tremendous lot of building going on all over the country, this being particularly noticeable in the eastern and southern states. Great gains in population were also reported in various centers he visited.
"The business outlook is regarded as most hopeful," he said, in response to a question, "and present trade conditions are rated as generally fair throughout this country and Canada."
Holden Retained as Placentia Attorney
Will Continue as Advisor for Improvement District
where it can be clearly shown that it is either vitally important and necessary or good business to do so. You will recall, Mr. Welch, that in the previous election I opposed the bonds for the improvement of interior of the harbor on these grounds.
"Now I assume that in this day and age we all agree that judicious advertising pays. It is therefore a pertinent question where and how could Orange county secure such a valuable and permanent advertising asset at so little cost as it would have in a safe and beautiful harbor.
It will be the only real recreational harbor on the coast. I feel confident that its easy accessibility to Los Angeles and all Southern California will assure its success as a pleasure harbor, provided the entrance is made safe.
"I am a rancher. I have no other financial interests. My ranch is not on the market, but I do not intentionally overlook an opportunity to make my property more valuable. The cost being so nominal, it strikes me that the investment in harbor bonds of 10 cents a year per $1000 worth of property is a good business proposition for anyone owning real estate anywhere within the limits of Orange county.
"3. I am supporting the harbor bonds because, as a rancher, I am vitally interested in the prospective water conservation program of Orange county.
"Not a very logical sounding statement, is it?
"My idea is simply this: We ranchers realize the exceedingly great importance of water conservation. Our lowering water levels leave no doubt on this question. On the other hand, the people living at Newport and along the coast of Orange county are as deeply concerned over the harbor as the ranchers are about an adequate, permanent water supply.
"Now, past bond elections indicate that over 25 per cent of the voters vote against all bonds, and in the long run I am inclined to think it may be fortunate that they do. Since two-thirds of the votes cast are required to carry bonds, it becomes evident that unless we co-operate in matters which we feel sure are for the best interests of the entire county, both the harbor and water bonds are doomed to defeat. We may as well be frank and face the facts."
H. Clay Kellogg, the greatest authority on the river the county ever produced, has stated that the Santa Ana river has changed its course 13 times, and it is likely to do it again at any time, because the channel has been gradually filling up with silt brought down from the mountains, until the bed of the river is much higher than the adjacent country. It is many feet higher than the intersection of Center and Los Angeles streets. Should it break through, a flood of uncontrolled water will inundate this section. It will be too late then to subscribe to a protection fund.
Grand Jury Will Meet December 6
The 30 members of the Orange county grand jury venire for 1926 were summoned by Superior Judge E. J. Marks to report in his court on December 6 at 10 a.m., when 19 members of the venire will be selected for duty.
The names of the venire members are: Guy Williams, San Juan Capistrano; E. E. Jahraus, Laguna Beach; Mrs. Mille Crosier, Newport Beach; S. R. Bowen, Huntington Beach; H. Endlerle and O. B. Newcom of Tustin; H. E. Warren, Buena Park; C. L. Hansen, Placentia; Frank Proud, La Habra; W. A. Culp, Bren; S. N. Fuller, R. T. Davis and L. M. Gardiner, Fullerton; Mrs. Martha C. Goodale, John Beneke and B. R. Douglass, Anaheim; C. A. Palmer, W. H. Flippen, Mrs. Lola B. Prerson and O. B. Newcom of Tustin; H. E. Warren, Buena Park; C. L. Hansen, Placentia; Frank Proud, La Habra; W. A. Culp, Bren; S. N. Fuller, R. T. Davis and L. M. Gardiner, Fullerton;
Raymond Nebelung has shouldered the responsibilities of another important job. Some months ago he was appointed appraisal of real estate for the federal reserve bank, to pass upon applications for loans, and a couple of weeks ago he was offered and accepted the position of appraiser for the federal intermediate bank, which loans money on chattel mortgages on stock. His district includes a large portion of Southern California.
The county supervisors Tuesday retained George F. Holden of Anaheim as attorney for the newly formed acquisition and improvement district No. 1, in Placentia, which contemplated a $375,000 paving program. Holden's compensation was fixed at $1000. He will have charge of all legal proceedings connected with the district.
Approximately 15 miles of asphalt-concrete and concrete paving will be laid in the Placentia district, covering every street within a radius of several miles, according to J. L. McBride county superintendent of highways. Portions of Richfield road, Kraemer avenue, Linda Vista street, Caroline street, Golden avenue, North Placentia avenue, Ploner street, Orangethorpe avenue, Palm street and other thoroughfares will be paved, it is planned.
The Placentia district is the first of its wind to be formed in Orange county.
"Acquisition and improvement" districts, it is said, are framed under the Mattoon act, which was framed by County Counsel Mattoon of Los Angeles county, as a measure to eliminate delays in street improvements on account of forced waits for right-of-way. Under the Mattoon act, according to McBride, any possession proceeded to take possession of ground wanted for right-of-way and may also proceed with the planned improvement without waiting to condemn the property. Condemnation suits can threshed out afterward. The act, it is said, was upheld by the state supreme court several months ago.
"The above are the considerations Mr. Welch on which are based may decision to support the harbor entrance bonds."
ANAHEIM—YOUR CITY
Founded by German Colonists, 1857
Assessed Value, 1925, $10,500,000
School System Valued at $951,000
Number 8
COMMITTEE APPEAL
HARBOR BOND PROPOSAL GETS SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE MEN
Opportunity Knocking at Our Door, According to Men Who Have Investigated; Orange County Must Vote the Bonds
EFFORTS of the progressive people of Orange county to create a commercial harbor out of nature's generous gift, Newport bay, is meeting the approval of discerning persons outside of the county who have inspected the bay, estimated its possibilities, and are well qualified to pass judgment on its possibilities and future value of the county. One of the outside men who came here recently to gather information on the subject was E. L. Wheeler, a well-known Los Angeles newspaperman. He had no personal interest in the matter, and his judgment was not warped; but, after studying the subject and examining the bay, he said:
"The world by the tall—yes, you folk..."
Two Women Killed In Stove Explosion
Four Others Seriously Injured, May Die From Burns
Two La Habra women are dead and four others, residents of Los Angeles and Norwalk, may die as the result of an oil stove explosion in a cabin near Mt. Baldy.
The dead are Mrs. Grace Carey, 51, wife of N. H. Carey, prominent La Habra rancher, and Mrs. Hattie Beaver, 71, mother of Mrs. Carey. The injured are Mrs. Clara Owens, Norwalk; Mrs. Lillian Murray, Los Angeles; Mrs. Lillian Owens, Norwalk, and Mrs. Irene Nuffer, Norwalk.
The injured women are in the San Antonio hospital, Upland, where they were rushed immediately following the accident.
According to word from the hospital, the conditions of the four women are serious.
An exploding oil stove was the direct cause of the tragedy. According to reports, the stove exploded while the women, with several friends, were preparing a Thanksgiving dinner. The party went to the cabin early Thanksgiving morning.
Nearby campers heard the explosion and the screams of the injured women and rushed to their aid. Blankets were thrown about the victims and they were hurried from the cabin. Mrs. Carey died first, and a few hours later, her mother passed away.
Those who left Thursday morning on what was to be a merry Thanksgiving party were Mr. and Mrs. N. H. Carey, La Habra; Mrs. Hattle Beaver, La Habra; Raymond Mettler, La Habra; Mr. and Mrs. E. E. Owens, Norwalk; Mr. and Mrs. Ross Owens, Norwalk; Mr. and Mrs. H. Nuffer, Norwalk; Mr. and Mrs. Calvin Culp and daughter, Los Angeles; Mr. and Mrs. C. W. Murray, Los Angeles.
Santa Ana Man Talks to Kiwanis
W. H. Hoy Tells of Necessity for Conserving Water
W. H. Hoy of Santa Anna was the chief speaker at the Kiwanis luncheon Tuesday, and devoted his time to the water situation. He told of the necessity for check dams to corral the flood water and prevent its loss by flowing down the channel of the Santa Ana river into the ocean. Ted Kuchel was future value of the county. One of the outside men who came here recently to gather information on the subject was E. L. Wheeler, a well-known Los Angeles newspaperman. He had no personal interest in the matter, and his judgment was not warped; but, after studying the subject and examining the bay, he said:
"The world by the tall—yes, you folk of Orange county have the world by the tail. You have the best chance for increase in valuations of any county I know anything about in the state."
"When I know the present worth of Orange county and also the large areas that as yet are undeveloped in an intensive way, I vision a county with three times the population and wealth in a few years. Your coast line, with its heart at Newport bay, will alone add to your values an amount equal to your total values today and do it very soon, if you open up your fine harbor possibilities."
"I am surprised that the workers don't take hold of the matter and bring it to an issue. It will create activity in all lines and demand a lot of labor in all sections of the county."
"The best that you can get is none too good for your people, but you must act to get the good things down your way. Other counties to the north of Los Angeles are waking up to the advantages of a sea highway and are looking about for methods to secure same. But with the natural advantages you have, you are without a real competitor."
"You are to be congratulated on your present plan to open the entrance to Newport bay and make it safe." Safety and Co-operation," which I understand is your slogan, should bring Orange county quickly to the front as the most active county in California. But don't delay. As I said before, the rest of the state is watching you, and if you fail to take advantage of the present program you will deeply regret it.
"It is good to see all sections of Orange county working in harmony and taking hold of your problems one at a time. This is the way that big things are accomplished. You will make no mistake by tackling your harbor question and putting it on the way. Then the field is clear for the next big question, and by uniting on the harbor matter you have welded the county into a unit for the next step in development."
General Beach, the government engineer who made a survey of the bay, said: "You can at Orange county harbor do for a small sum what would cost a great deal to do elsewhere." Asked what kind of a harbor to build—for commerce or pleasure—he added, "Both. While you are waiting for commerce to develop, you can get a lot of business by catering to the pleasure side of the harbor, for you have the best location on the Pacific coast for a real worth-white yacht harbor, which
Talks to Kiwanis
W. H. Hoy Tells of Necessity for Conserving Water
W. H. Hoy of Santa Ana was the chief speaker at the Kiwanis luncheon Tuesday, and devoted his time to the water situation. He told of the necessity for check dams to corral the flood water and prevent its loss by flowing down the channel of the Santa Ana river into the ocean. Ted Kuchel was chairman of the meeting, and introduced Mr. Hoy, who made an interesting and instructive address, showing that the future prosperity of Orange county depends upon bottling up the flood water now going to waste and using it for irrigation purposes.
Mr. Hoy is an enthusiastic supporter of the check dam system which will sink the water into the ground, but he also advocates building the proposed Prado dam. This will cost Orange county five million dollars, and many people believe that smaller dams at the headwaters of the river can be built to answer the purpose at much less cost. However, he made it plain that the lifesaving water now going to waste must be conserved at any cost, because the continued development of the county is dependent upon it.
Other speakers at the meeting were F. A. Yungbluth and William Falkenstein.
Students Named to Honor Convention
Eight student members of the Honor Society of the Anaheim Union high school are to represent the local school at a Southern California Honor Society convention to be held in the Mission Inn, Riverside, December 18, according to announcement today by Mrs. Fay Kern Schulz, faculty advisor of the local society.
The Anaheim students who will attend are Jesse Johnston, president; Martha Adams, Ember Heyne, Bob Schweinfest, Tommy Kuchel, Randall Maass, Mary Jane Van Booven and Mary Tanaka.
A wild deer got loose in Central park, New York, the other day and caused quite a commotion. A wild dear on Broadway, however, doesn't cause so much excitement.